In the midst of relocating across the country to a town where I know no one, I couldn’t have chosen a better guest to remind us that connections are everywhere. It’s up to us to be proactive, and choose when and how to create connections. Natalie Siston grew up in a pop.600 town, but says anywhere we go can feel like a small town. She’s on a mission to bring back ‘small town’ meaningful relationships and leadership to the world.
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Rana Olk (Host): Hello Everyone, Hi! As I am speaking right now, it is a beautiful Saturday morning. I am looking out at the peaceful day in my neighborhood and I am cherishing my last days here. I went on a walk around the block, around our little pond, and I was just looking at it going “Oh my gosh! I am not gonna be here much longer” and my office that I am sitting in right now is half empty because we have been getting rid of things and there are piles of books and boxes everywhere. So, as you can probably guess, what I am saying is, we are moving. And we are not just moving but preparing basically to relocate from Florida all the way across the country to Southern California and let me tell you this place is a mess. I am excited, but I am also a little nervous. Because, well Southern Cali is beautiful. For those of you out there, from there, yes, it’s..it’s gorgeous. I love it. I love mountains and in Florida, a speed bump is about as high you are gonna get, as far as height goes. There is no hiking here. I can’t wait to go hiking and exploring. Truthfully, there isn’t a lot I am going to miss about South Florida other than my friends. What I am going to miss though is the energy of living in or at least really close to the city. I’m a city girl and the nearest big city for us once we move is going to be San Diego and that’s over an hour away. So, not gonna see any high rises, no miles, and miles of streets or big city lights. I like those things. Obviously though, most important is that it’s probably gonna take some time for me to create new connections and friendships. And I think about that and then I go…but on the other hand, being in a smaller town, will probably feel cozier and make connecting to others easier. We’ll see. That’s what a lot of us want. Connection and intimacy, right? So, I’m excited and nervous which pretty much sums up, I think, a lot of things in life. At least in my life. So, while I am here talking about how far from the city I am gonna be and the “small town of actually 100,000 people” that I am gonna be living in, my guest is probably chuckling or even maybe laughing her head off right now because my definition of a small town and hers are surely not matching. Natalie Siston knows about small towns because she grew up in a really small town and so she learned everything she ever needed to learn, there. I’m gonna let her tell you more about herself. Why the work she does matters? What led her to it? And, what we all can learn from small town ways even if we never lived in a small town. And, I am hoping, a little selfishly, perhaps, that she is gonna have some good pointers and lessons for me. So, here she is, after that introduction, Natalie, welcome! How are you?
Natalie Siston (Guest): Oh, thank you so much! What a great tie-in. I had no idea where you were starting, where you were going, but it’s, it’s magical. So, thank you for that terrific introduction. And yes, we are gonna use this time to get you all set and prepared for that move.
Rana Olk (Host): Great! Thanks! So, let’s start with that. What do you think about a small town of 100,000?
Natalie Siston (Guest): I do laugh because I grew up in the town of Republic Ohio; Population, 600. It’s technically not even a town. It’s a village but small village leadership didn’t have the same ring as small town leadership. Thinking about what I would be doing, and I think, right now, I live in Dublin, Ohio which is a suburb of Columbus and I don’t even know the population off the top of my head, but Dublin is nowhere close to being 100,000 people. So, I, yes, I do chuckle, but I think small town is always a state of mind too. So, I think that is really what you are bringing up for me is; that small town is a state of mind and that’s why the tagline I have created for smalltown leadership is “Making our big world feel like a smaller place”.
Rana Olk (Host): That, okay, so I love that you said that “small town is a state of mind”. So, describe to us, first of all, you have the blog “Small Town Leadership” but, elaborate on that. What do you mean by “small town is a state of mind”? Describe that state of mind for us.
Natalie Siston (Guest): Absolutely. It might help to back up a little bit, just to start with where small-town leadership originated and then dig into the small town state of mind. So it was about 3 years ago when I decided I was at a point in my career where I was going “ehh.. I don’t know what’s next? you know, I’m itching a little bit. So, I hired a coach and she helped me get through, dig up like, what is it about your childhood and growing up that you don’t do anymore, that you miss? And, I told her, I love to speak and write, and she was like “okay we’ll go do more of that” and so I was going down that path; and one night, you know we always get our great thoughts at midnight.
Rana Olk (Host): Of course!
Natalie Siston (Guest): I know, I was like… I said, “I know what this is”. Because whenever I speak or write, it is usually linking with what I am doing right now with that small town upbringing. And I said that this thing, this feeling I am having is called small town leadership. So if I were to describe my leadership, the silo would be derived from this small town state of mind. This idea that we are all connected. This idea that community is everything and this idea that one smile and one connection, no matter if you are doing that in a city of 1 million or in your town of 600, that’s all that matters at that moment. And because I experience so many of those moments of one to one connections growing up, because quite literally, many times that’s all you had; was that you walked into a store and you were the only other person there. So, you had the conversation with the storekeeper kind of thing, that’s the feeling I wanted to bring to the world through small-town leadership. And that’s where I think this whole small town state of mind comes from; is we can be wherever we are in the world and if we just stepped back and realize that whoever we are standing in front of or whoever we are speaking to on the phone at that point in time, that’s really all that matters in that moment.
Rana Olk (Host): Oh my gosh! You are describing something that I have found in talking to strangers, people are yearning for; and so it’s, I wonder when you look back on how you grew up and that small time mindset, do you miss that? Or do feel like you still have it? Or, what’s going on there?
Natalie Siston (Guest): Yeah, that’s a really good question. There are certain things about small-town life that I certainly miss. See, I think I miss that idea of you go somewhere and everybody knows your name or in my case, everyone knew who my parents were and my grandparents, my aunts, uncles. I think that’s what I miss the most, is that feeling that if you can go somewhere, and people know who you are. I don’t miss the things you are not having. Access to the wonderful resources that I have being in a bigger city or just being around or being closer to more people, right? That is one of the benefits of being in a larger area is that the pool of people with whom you can connect gets larger. You know, I, this is me, I guess, the 20th anniversary of moving to the big city. I graduated high school 20 years ago. I’m the proud class of 1998. I missed my 20th reunion last week. But that’s okay. I celebrated with them in spirit. But after I moved to Columbus, Ohio to go to Ohio State, I never went back home. I didn’t even go back home to live for the summers because I was eating this place up. And I knew that once I made it here I could make it anywhere and I think that….
Rana Olk (Host): So, let me ask you Natalie because you brought something up that’s important. You say the small town, that is a state of mind and like you and like me a lot of people and a lot of you out there listening, I’m sure you are gonna relate to this. We go to school and nowadays it’s so easy to pick up and build the life halfway across the country, all the way across the country, all the way across the globe if need be. People are not staying in their small communities anymore as much. So, we are losing. No matter what, we are losing that “oh I’m, you know, everybody knows my name, everybody knows what I am up to, the neighbors are people that I can just stop in on”, we don’t have that anymore. So how do we create, without those things, how do we create the small town feel that you describe when we move someplace completely new and don’t know anybody?
Natalie Siston (Guest): I love the loaded question because I know it is gonna help you with your move. No, it’s a good one.
Rana Olk (Host): There gotta be a way cause, I mean we have to take the initiative, right? I have to take the initiative. I can’t wait for other people to you know to bring pies to my door.
Natalie Siston (Guest): You know that you can’t. Let me tell you a story. This is one I have shared on the blog and it’s the experience of my husband and I moving into our first house. You know being from a small town where I am, my mom would have made a casserole for the people before they even moved in and had it waiting on the doorstep. That’s the type of place I grew up in. When we moved into our first house, we were,1) we were super excited, we were very proud but not a single person came over to introduce themselves. We lived in a very small cul de sac. And I was just flabbergasted and just went “oh my gosh!”. But you bring up a really good point. We have to be the ones to take that initiative and so I sat around in that moment being all huffy and mad that no one was coming over and introducing themselves to us when I realized you know, somewhere took me a while to come to the conclusion that it was up to me to go knock on the door. And so I think if we all have an awareness of this, right? If we see that new person moving in, remember what it was like to be the new person. Then we are a lot more likely to go and introduce ourselves, bring them a casserole, bring the pie, invite the family over for dinner, whatever the case might be. And if we find ourselves in that scenario, we move in and no one appears on the doorstep magically with an apple pie then we, you know, we take a deep breath, we pull our shoulders back and we go start knocking on doors ourselves. And I want to tell you that is probably one of the hardest things for us to do and that’s why we have gotten to the point where we have gotten to feeling isolated and disconnected. It’s because I think we are all sitting around and waiting for somebody else to do you the thing.
Rana Olk (Host): So that brings up something good which is near and dear to my heart as well. And I’m so glad you are here to talk about this with me because I feel like we are on the same wavelength. It is hard to do. And I talk to strangers. So I know that people are yearning for this kind of connection and that they are feeling isolated and alone and that it feels “ weird” to talk to people we don’t know even when they are our neighbors. This is the world we live in, right now. People are yearning for it but afraid to take the initiative and create that. And you are describing small town living and you are also missing that. But at the same time, you admit it’s hard to recreate that. Why do you think this is? What do you think is the real reason for our state of disconnection and how is this happening?
Natalie Siston (Guest): I think there are two things at play. So, 1) I think is we all have this fall sense of connection because of social media, because of digital whatever, because we carry a computer around in our purse every day with our phone. So I think we have a fall sense of connection so we might say “oh I don’t need that”. Right? I’ve got, I just checked this morning,1100 LinkedIn connection and I know most of my LinkedIn are not just random people who I connected with. So combine that with 100’s of Facebook friends and the 100’s of Instagram followers and whatever, add it all up and you feel like “oh I’m good”, right? I don’t need to worry about connecting with more people. So I think that’s one thing and so we have this fall sense and we don’t take action. But I think the bigger thing is that we have forgotten who we are.
Rana Olk (Host): Ouch!okay.
Natalie Siston (Guest): Because we are so busy being this person online or so busy trying to take the next great photo or shoot the next great video. I’m as guilty of this as the next person and that somewhere along the line we forget who we are. So, therefore you don’t know how to show up as yourself. So, even when you do take that effort to go shake the hand, knock on the door, or send that email or text message, if you are not in your own skin and you are not believing who you are you might as well not be taking that action.
Rana Olk (Host): Wow, so we are online so often and online you don’t want to be the negative person, you don’t want to be the Debbie Downer, you don’t want to be the messy person. Though in a way all we are showing is, and everybody knows that we are showing the highlight but its so easy, so easy to hide the messier parts of being human, right? And the more we hide those aspects of ourselves, the more we end up forgetting and losing those aspects of ourselves which is completely inauthentic. Is that right?
Natalie Siston (Guest): Oh a 100%. And I think that’s why we walk around every day and a typical interaction is “hi, how are you, great, awesome, have a great day” and you move along. Because people are afraid to be a little vulnerable to step into that when they aren’t having a good day to say “yeah, its kinda rough today”, or…
Rana Olk (Host): And how do we react though? I can’t remember. I have had so many of these conversations lately but when somebody says I am not doing well, I have to admit, okay, if I run into my neighbor across the street, she.. I do actually know my neighbors; her name is Mary Jane and I love her and so if I see her and say “hey, how are you” and I just happen to be taking the garbage bin to the curb right? If should were to say “Oh my gosh, I’m having the worst day”, I don’t know what I would do sometimes. I mean, I think here is where, oh gosh this is so hard to say but there are times when I’d be like “oh come on in let’s sit down and chat about it” but then are times when I’m like “oh God, I just wanted to take the garbage out. I have only one minute and I’ve gotta get back in to work”. Our priorities have changed, right?
Natalie Siston (Guest): Yes
Rana Olk (Host): And how am I gonna disengage from this? Oh my gosh is this going to be 2 mins or is it going to be all day?
Natalie Siston (Guest): Right, right. And I think you hit on the third, that is probably getting in our way, which is we are “busy”. We are so busy and I think that’s when you just have to step into humanness and admit if “Oh gosh, Mary Jane, I’m really sorry to hear that you are feeling that way today. I have an appointment waiting for me but you know were to find me and can we get together later?” You know that is acknowledging it and then determining if you want to step into that later or if you just have to gracefully bow out. And that’s, you are probably right, that’s why Mary Jane likely shakes her head and says “Great” because she doesn’t want to put the other person in an awkward position
Rana Olk (Host): But see this is how we react. We can’t really separate our behaviors from, you know, it’s like, if I am acting without thinking at all about the other person how they might take that, it might just become such a mess. The reason why we don’t say what’s really going on with us is because we don’t want to put someone else in that position of thinking “oh God, not now” right? So we don’t say anything. I don’t say anything because I don’t want to be a bother. And yet when I need somebody, then I complain that there is nobody there for me or that there is no one to talk to. So we are all walking around in this state of loneliness and disconnection and it’s just not right. It’s not right So if I was in Mary Jane ‘s place in this scenario, right? If someone said to me “oh gosh Rana, not right now, come later” or “I don’t have time for this but I really care about you so let’s set up a meeting why don’t you stop by tonight after dinner?” I would not take that personally. I wouldn’t be upset. I’d be like “oh, awesome”. But everybody always assumes that the other person will be upset if they are honest. You know what I mean?
Natalie Siston (Guest): Wow, right! You just played that back in the opposite way and that’s not true. So perhaps we just need to be comfortable in our own shoes and in our own truth and not worry about the other person’s reaction. I think that, to your point, is the hardest part of all this. What if, for a day, we can forget what the reaction’s going to be. So if we think about it, that’s why we are putting all those beautiful pictures on Instagram and Facebook because we want the little hearts, we want the little thumbs up. It feels good, we get a little kick from that. Which is the same reason were we say I’m doing great, doing awesome and..
Rana Olk (Host): It’s vulnerability. To be honest and who you are and not care about the rejection. It’s vulnerability. We are all afraid to be vulnerable and it seems like in today’s day and age it’s getting even harder.
Natalie Siston (Guest): Absolutely! One of my favorite authors is Brene Brown. And she has been a really big inspiration for the latest series I have been writing in my blog which is “52 Weeks of Meaningful Connections”. I read “Daring Greatly” right before I started that series and in the middle of it I read “Braving the Wilderness”. And these are two of her key points. It’s just how do you talk about courage and vulnerability and I think what it was to me was this idea of authenticity and being okay with being who you are. And I think, you know, going back to this whole small town state of mind is, you can’t hide in a small town, right? So, whether the brand you are cast in from a young age is right or wrong, you are known, right? You are known by the thing you did when you were six. Because everybody in the town found out or or you were known as the kid who was good at sport or good at math or not good at those things or the troublemakers or the goody two shoes and I think because of that, I think I was able to lean into who I was growing up. I was proud of who I was growing up. I was proud of my family and probably a lot of people living in small towns have that opposite feeling than me. They felt bad about how they were cast and that wasn’t helpful but that helped me be authentic when I was there. And I think just slowly over these twenty years that I have talked about, from when I haven’t lived there, is when I started to fall out of that authenticity which is when I feel like I realized and woke up one day and said: “Gosh, I think I’m lonely”.
Rana Olk (Host): Let’s talk about that. First of all, you brought up the “ 52 Weeks of Meaningful Connections” and that’s why I wanted you here because that’s the magic, meaningful connection. So I perked up when somebody referred me to you. But you talk about loneliness and why you created that as well. So could you elaborate? What’s the loneliness?
Natalie Siston (Guest): Yeah, I think the loneliness trigger didn’t happen until partway through writing this series. So I’ll back up a little bit and tell you about writing this series. It was another one of those moments of a flash of an idea. I was taking a walk one day at my lunch hour and I wanted to write something else. I wanted to put something out on a thematic basis and it just came to me. What we are all craving are these meaningful connections and I think at the same time I realize that there is no magic bullet to any of this stuff. There is no secret sauce, right? People would not be listening to this podcast or any podcast or books for that matter if we just had it all figured out. So I thought, what if, for 52 weeks I can put something out into the world that talks about this idea of meaningful connections. And so, you know, I definitely think that it’s something if anyone is interested in, they should check out. But about halfway through this process of writing I stepped back and I said “oh my gosh”, I think the real reason I wanted to do this wasn’t because I felt like I was living in a cold world or I saw that people did not know how to network. I saw that I was lonely. And this was somehow my antidote to how I was feeling.
Rana Olk (Host): And how does it become an antidote?
Natalie Siston (Guest): Wow, because I think from that point on, from the time I realized that “Gosh, I think that I’m lonely”, the way I wrote that series has shifted.
Rana Olk (Host): Interesting. This shift that you feel?
Natalie Siston (Guest): The shift has been talking more about this idea of authenticity, talking more about this idea of vulnerability, of being yourself, of not being afraid to share the words, sharing the sad parts of your life and sharing the stuff you are going through.. I think it was my real wake up call of , if I don’t start living this way for myself how can I be a good role model for my two daughters who are 6 and 8? How can I even put my stamp on something called a “Meaningful Connection” if I am not out there in the world building a meaningful connection and by showing up as myself and offering that up to others . And so I think that the writing for me went from a place of “hey, here is tips on networking, there is research on why its important”, which is all great. Like, it still works, it still all truthful but it shifted to be way more personal about what it’s like to make friends when we are adults. Which you and I talked about. It’s hard. It’s hard to make friends when you are an adult. Or how do you make space for the people who show up in your life and you realize “oh gosh, they are meant to be here”. But I haven’t made space for them because I have packed my day with work and kids stuff and more work and extracurriculars and all these things and all of a sudden someone shows up in your life and you realize, “gosh, I want to make space for this person”.
Rana Olk (Host): Wow! So, there is so much to unpack there. It’s almost as if I have all these thoughts in my head and I’m gonna try to make sense of them. But loneliness is, obviously we, I think most of us and our listeners right now, know. I’m sure many of our listeners actually have experienced this because if we look at the statistics a good portion of us are lonely. Even though we are surrounded by people. So, the real antidote to loneliness doesn’t have as much to do with how many people are around us. It’s how many people actually.. It’s still our responsibility. We want to be seen and we want to be known for who we really are but if we continue to hide our vulnerabilities, if we continue to not be vulnerable, we can’t be known and that is what makes us lonely. So we are almost the cause of our own loneliness. If we can’t be vulnerable, if we can’t show ourselves, we cant be seen by anybody for who we are , right? The feeling, the sense of loneliness is, I want people to know me and that comes, that is related to why it’s harder to make friends when you are older. Maybe because part of knowing me is knowing who I am , my history, sharing many of the experiences with me and its hard to create that with somebody knew.
Natalie Siston (Guest): It sure is, especially when you can resort back to the comfort zone. You can resort back to the people who do know you. When whether or not you fell very close to them, it’s just easy, its comfortable, you got a place there. And I think, you know, you and I both went to the same coaching school and I have just been amazed by the number of friends and deep connections I have made through that experience. And I didn’t go into that thinking that I was going to come out with this whole new group of friends or connections or people quite literally, I could call in the middle of the night, if I needed to, and they would answer the phone and talk to me for however long I needed to. That’s the depth of the relationship that I’ve been able to experience by going through this whole process myself, is just saying it’s okay. You gonna get all of me.
Rana Olk (Host): You just brought up an amazing point. We went through that same training and for those in the listening audience who don’t know, this is ..you start out and let’s just talk about the first weekend, okay? It’s a three day weekend where you have no choice but to take off the masks. Cause I think one of the first exercises is, it’s worded differently, What is your greatest vulnerability? The things you do not like about yourself. And if you aren’t 100% authentic you are gonna show and there are anywhere from 10, 15 to 45 in that room and everybody is just spilling it. And these are strangers to you in the beginning. So, out of that, by the end of those three days, just those first three days, that’s just the beginning of the training of several months , you feel like you have known these people forever. And so that is the key to making meaningful connections then, isn’t it? That its not the matter of how long somebody knows you, it’s about how vulnerable have you been willing to be, how much of your facade or you know, mask had you dropped and exposed and how much of your inner self, have you exposed, then you are known and then you have intimacy and like you said, I came out of that with lifelong friends as well.
Natalie Siston (Guest): I couldn’t agree with you more. I’ll say, I had quite a little bit of a different perspective. So, I love how you just said that. If I had to do it all over again that’s how I would do it. But I still had a mask on when I started. This was 2 years ago when I started the program and I have a very dear friend who was the one who shepherded me into the program and he and I met two days before I left for my training, which I did in Dallas of all places, because I’m obviously in Ohio, but I had a good friend in Dallas and he said “your life is about to change”. And I was like “Oh! Amen, that’s what I want. I want my life to change. I want this magic bullet, this antidote thing”. So, I went through the three day experience, and yet met wonderful people and felt like I formed at least relationships. I wouldn’t say connections but relationships, but I left that following Monday and I said, “my life didn’t change”. Because I was expecting this magic bullet experience because I know people have had that happen for them. However, fast you forward a year later, oh that’s when it hit me, that’s when the change happened. So I think it just took me a while to take the mask off.
Rana Olk (Host): You know, I am so glad you brought that up because its true. For some people it was a little harder, I think and no matter what, I think, it’s kinda like peeling, we always talk about peeling back the layers of an onion, right? Sometimes it takes going through that kind of an experience, it’s that first weekend, so to speak, or any kind of experience where you are laying it all out, laying it there for people, to realize how much more there is. And maybe you did your best and you walk away going “oh my gosh, I had masks on that I didn’t even know I still have”. So, it could be partially that. All of this I think it is to say that, learning how to be vulnerable and I’m also gonna say I think earlier I said part of the reason it’s harder these days in this age to be vulnerable; is because we have all these social media connections and all these people whose judgment we fear now. It’s a lot more. It’s like we are always on display. So there seems to be so much more to lose if you screw up, right? Or there is so many more people watching, paying attention, so we think but meaningful connections require vulnerability. I think that’s the lesson here.
So, tell us about where people can find you online and why they should check out “ 52 Weeks of Meaningful Connections”
Natalie Siston (Guest): So people can find me at smalltownleadership.com. That’s the easiest place to go. All my social links are there. So, smalltownleadership.com or Natalie Siston on all things, LinkedIn, Instagram or Facebook. You will find a link on smalltownleadership.com directly to “52 Weeks of Meaningful Connections”. I would definitely suggest checking it out because it’s bite size pieces of things that you can do to help chip away whatever you are feeling on your scale of 0 being “I don’t need any meaningful connections” to 10 “I’m booked full of meaningful connections”. I think you can be on any level of that spectrum and take something away from each week of content that will help you assess how you are doing, as someone who is showing up authentically, who is trying to connect with others and how you can make other people comfortable about showing up and connecting with others as well.
Rana Olk (Host): So what’s the change that you would like to see Natalie? What inspires you? Why are you doing this? You are doing it for others, not just for yourself.
Natalie Siston (Guest): Absolutely, I am doing this for others because I want to make our big world feel like a smaller place. Because I do want people to feel like they are in Republic Ohio. It’s the feeling I am aiming for every day in any place I go. Whether I am here at home or traveling for work, that kind of thing, I want to make that place feel like home. And I think one action that everyone can take every day, and you are a great role model for this, is to talk to strangers and wherever we are going , just a smile and a hello can go so far to making someone feel that they are acknowledged and they are seen and taking that even a step further to having some sort of small conversation and you never ever know where that’s gonna go. And I think that’s were the magic happens. It’s sitting in the plane seat and taking the headphones off for a change and having a meaningful conversation with a person next to you.
Rana Olk (Host): And not being afraid after a little while to say “okay, I’m gonna read my book now”..
Natalie Siston (Guest): Absolutely and retreating back to the laptop, if its time. Absolutely.
Rana Olk (Host): Just being yourself.
Natalie Siston (Guest): Just being yourself. Absolutely. I think that we all just need to start with that, hello and a smile because that could be the spark that breaks down the artificial barriers that we are all experiencing; that have led to this loneliness, disconnection, antsy place that the world feels like, a lot of times.
Rana Olk (Host): Gosh, I love that. I love that you beat me to it. That one small action is something that we ask about, you know at the end of every episode; and so for those who didn’t hear that quiet right let’s repeat it because I think it’s so important. You can start this now today and in your very next outing. Get off your phone and actually make eye contact with the cashier, with your neighbor or with the person at the DMV who is probably crabby. But ask her what her highlight of the day was or something. Put a smile on someone’s face. Do something novel and unexpected and make their day because I love that. Ever since I started doing that, and I am sure you do it too, how often do you get that “oh my gosh, you made my day” or somebody’s face just lights up, right?
Natalie Siston (Guest): Right, and it didn’t cost you a dollar more or a minute more of your time. You just brought a different energy . And maybe that’s what we are after here. Just bring a different energy, right? It’s just shifting the thought of, people are bad to people are good; and shifting the way to say “I’m good on my relationships” to, “I always have room for more relationships”. It’s that shift in, were our minds are, that can lead to all of this change and the energy will also then shift with you.
Rana Olk (Host): I love that. I love that. I think it’s a great place to allow our audience to go out and think about some of this and ponder it and absorb it. I really enjoyed this conversation. Natalie, thank you so very much for being here and I hope we get to talk to you again when your “52 Weeks of Meaningful Connections” are over. I would love to bring it back and talk to you about what else you’ve learned.
Natalie Siston (Guest): That would be wonderful. I appreciate the opportunity to be here. Thank you, very much and good luck on the move. You are going to have a million friends waiting for you when you get there.
Rana Olk (Host):: Thank you! Well, I definitely might consider that pie idea that kinda just popped out. I might say hello to the new neighbors. Who I hear, are pretty decent.
Natalie Siston (Guest): There you go.
Rana Olk (Host): Alright everybody, well, you know how to find Natalie. All the links will be up on the website and I hope you will think about saying hello to a stranger or making eye contact and figuring out how you too can create more meaningful connections in your life. Okay, any questions? Just send them to us on the website. Talk to you later. Bye